[Teachldsseminary] teachldsseminary Digest, Vol 21, Issue 3
Kathleen West
kwest at chorus.net
Thu May 3 13:07:24 MDT 2007
thank you for making us aware of the statement on lds.org. I don' t often
participate in discussions but I feel that I need to say something now. I
learn so very much from all of your comments. I appreciate the heads up to
the things that are "out there" that will affect our students. I have often
found myself more prepared to handle something that comes up because of this
list. Since we do not know how or when that may be the case for any
particular individual, I would like to just put a word in for allowing
everyone to keep contributing. I always feel a little uncomfortable when it
is suggested that certain lines of discussion need to be curtailed. I have a
delete button to control my own space and really want to have the freedom to
do that. In the meantime, I wouldn't want to miss hearing the insights and
opinions of all. I am grateful for all of your efforts.
Kathleen West
Madison, Wisconsin
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From: "Steve/Chris Chennault" <cheneau at wavecable.com>
To: <teachldsseminary at latter-dayvillage.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:39 PM
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> Greetings, Fellow laborers in the vineyard:
>
> Regarding the PBS television programs, may I suggest that we get on / stay
> on the right track by wisely taking a cue from the leadership of the
> Church.
> On the Church's official website is found a statement on these programs
> that
> should help us to get or keep proper perspective: lds.org/ldsnewsroom.
>
> It is practically impossible to avoid impacting our students' perceptions
> with our own attitudes; we would do well to remain mindful that as agents
> of
> the Church Educational System our words and deeds are influential, for
> good
> or for evil. Latter-day Saints are charged with the building of the
> Kingdom, not the tearing down of other empires.
>
> Our most important responsibility is to provide an environment in which
> the
> Holy Ghost can instruct, enlighten, reveal and inspire. Let us be
> teachable; let us be as willing to be instructed as we desire our students
> to be.
>
> Your sister in the Gospel,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Presidents of the Church (Jill Madison)
> 2. Re: teachldsseminary Digest, Vol 21, Issue 1 (debra storm)
> 3. Re: PBS documentary (Shalyn Sedgwick)
> 4. Re: QUESTION: Nice gift for completion (matt mayes)
> 5. Re: PBS documentary (GRIZGRANNY at aol.com)
> 6. Re: PBS documentary (GRIZGRANNY at aol.com)
> 7. Re: PBS documentary (GRIZGRANNY at aol.com)
> 8. Re: Presidents of the Church (Carol Skipper)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 11:16:12 -0700
> From: "Jill Madison" <jdmadison at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] Presidents of the Church
> To: teachldsseminary at latter-dayvillage.com
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> Debra,
> I would be interested to receive this as well!! Thanks!
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 18:06:55 -0400
> From: "debra storm" <debra.storm at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] teachldsseminary Digest, Vol 21, Issue
> 1
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> To all those who have requested the information (food, recipes, and
> favorite
> hymns) on the presidents, as soon as I get back home - and back to my own
> computer! - I will quickly get that information to you. It will be in a
> few
> days-
> Debra Storm
>
>
> On 5/1/07, Sue Frost <s.frost at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Debra.
>>
>> I would love a copy too! Not sure how to contact you personally
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sue
>> EMS Canberra Australia
>> s.frost at bigpond.net.au
>>
>>
>> From: teachldsseminary-bounces at latter-dayvillage.com
>> [mailto:teachldsseminary-bounces at latter-dayvillage.com] On Behalf Of
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>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:26 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] Presidents of the Church
>>
>>
>> I have the document listing their b-days, their favorite hymns, and
>> their favorite foods along with the recipes of many of them, however, I
>> cannot send an attachment, and to cut and paste would make a huge email.
>> You can contact me personally and I can forward this to you. It is in
>> Office Word .
>>
>> Debra
>>
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> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:52:37 -0400
> From: "Shalyn Sedgwick" <shalynsedgwick at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] PBS documentary
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> Next round.... www.septemberdawn.net
> Shalynn
> EMS Bridgeport CT
>
> On 5/2/07, JENNIFER <jsikora at elp.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> My students were upset about the documentary namely because it was only
>> stating partial truths and and focusing on those who have been either
>> excommunicated or have left the church for other reasons. It did not
>> give
>> an accurate accounting of who we really are. The good thing is that our
>> students recognized that and were willing to put their own testimonies to
>> the test and rely on their faith and their own confirmation of the spirit
>> to
>> testify of the real truth!
>> Jennifer
>> El Paso
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <wrightplace4 at mindspring.com>
>> To: <teachldsseminary at latter-dayvillage.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 7:48 AM
>> Subject: [Teachldsseminary] PBS documentary
>>
>>
>> > What has been your student's reaction to the PBS documenarty? After
>> > the
>> > first night I decided to use the information in the Institute Manual on
>> > the Mountain Meadow Massacre instead of the lesson on Joseph Fielding
>> > Smith that I had prepared. I was glad I did because the students who
>> had
>> > watched it were very confused and wondered what in the world it was all
>> > about. They were satisfied that it was a bad chapter in the history of
>> > the church but not nearly as bad as the documentary made it sound.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure I should call it a documentary though. It seemed like at
>> > least half of it was not based on truth and they spent much more time
>> with
>> > dissodents than with strong, active members who could give a better
>> > picture of our beliefs.
>> >
>> > It has been said that anti-Mormon literature can bring people into the
>> > church so I'm sure this "documentary" will have a good effect on some
>> > people. I thought it was also interesting that the ones who were
>> speaking
>> > out against the church didn't say the church was bad, just the one
>> > instance where they had the problem. I think many viewers will agree
>> with
>> > our stand against homosexuality and that women shouldn't hold the
>> > priestood, etc.
>> >
>> > It was kind of cute this morning, one of the girls said "When they were
>> > talking about Brigham Young last night he sounded like OUR Brigham
>> Young".
>> > We had talked yesterday about how they made him sound like a yes man
>> with
>> > no opinion on the first night. After studying him this year we grew to
>> > love the "Lion of God".
>> >
>> > Just my thoughts. I was wondering what ya'll thought of it and how the
>> > students who watched it in your units reacted.
>> >
>> > Elaine
>> > EMS, Clarksville, TN
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> Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 18:12:40 -0700 (PDT)
> From: matt mayes <connie3369 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] QUESTION: Nice gift for completion
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> My husband is having t-shirts made for his students
> that complete all SM. It is designed to look like a
> team sport shirt. On the front it says "Ask me what I
> like about my church" on the back it has their name
> and a jersey number.
>
> --- Gma124 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> My son and daughter-in-law gave me a lovely little
>> pendant from Deseret Book
>> for Christmas. It only cost a little over $6.00.
>> It was a small replica of
>> the door knob on the Salt Lake Temple Doors. I love
>> it because it reminds
>> me I need to always remain worthy to enter the
>> temple. I replaced the chain
>> because I like my chains a little longer than the
>> one that came with it. But
>> you could write a poem or a letter to go with it
>> talking about the
>> significance of all she's learned and how it will
>> open many doors for her in the future
>> but through the doors to the temple she will be
>> able to put all that
>> knowledge towards understanding her greatest
>> potential.
>>
>> I hope that is making some kind of sense.
>>
>> Tisa
>> Wahiawa, HI
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 02:54:18 EDT
> From: GRIZGRANNY at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] PBS documentary
> To: teachldsseminary at latter-dayvillage.com
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> In a message dated 5/2/2007 6:54:12 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> shalynsedgwick at gmail.com writes:
>
> Next round.... www.septemberdawn.net
>
>
>
> Great!! Interesting that the director's name is Christopher CAIN - We'll
> we
> see a film about Haun's Mill Massacre? Will we see a Hollywood film
> about
> the extermination order? Doubtful -
>
> Gird your loins, and gather your armor - I have a feeling we're going to
> need it.
>
> Karen Johnson
> EMS Seeley Lake Montana
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 03:21:26 EDT
> From: GRIZGRANNY at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] PBS documentary
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> I agree with your comments and insights.
>
> I know they had a limited amount of time to present the many facets of our
> church, our life - but they missed some important parts of our lives.
> When
>
> they were speaking about women and the church they didn't mention the
> Relief
>
> Society organization, or that Belle Spafford, Relief Society President for
> many
> many years, (if I remember correctly) was either the President or an
> important member of NOW - National Organization of Women.
>
> They could have mentioned many more members that are in Congress.
>
> I thought surely they would mention Seminary!! But they didn't mention
> it
> or any of the BYU's -
>
> They didn't mention the Young Women or Young Men Program.
>
> The church must have allowed them the use of all of the videos the church
> has produced. I recognized parts of many of them.
>
> I agree too that it is very hard to hear our Prophet mocked and our faith
> questioned. It just makes me appreciate even more what the early Saints
> had to
> go through. Sticks and stones - at least we are not being tarred and
> feathered, our homes burned and our very lives in danger - yet. We must
> be
> doing a
> lot right if the adversary is working so hard to try to discredit us.
> Our
> youth need to know enough about their faith and beliefs to be able to
> defend
> the church and its history.
>
> Together in faith
> Karen Johnson
> EMS Seeley Lake Montana
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 03:30:10 EDT
> From: GRIZGRANNY at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] PBS documentary
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> I checked my own "facts". Belle Spafford was the President of the
> National
>
> Council of Women from 1968 to 1970. She was the General Relief Society
> President for 30 years.
>
> Karen Johnson
> EMS Seeley Lake Montana
>
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> Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 07:53:47 -0500
> From: "Carol Skipper" <clskipper at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] Presidents of the Church
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> I would love to have a copy of this also, Thanks! Carol
>
> On 5/1/07, jarvismail at comcast.net <jarvismail at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Debra,
>>
>> I would be interested in this also.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> JarvisMail at comcast.net
>> --
>> Sister Jarvis
>> Marysville Washington EMS
>> 17 Juniors (and 3 investigators)
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Lena Paul" <lenap62 at yahoo.com>
>>
>> > Debra,
>> >
>> > I just found this. I would be very interested in your compilation.
>> > Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work and organization.
>> >
>> > Lena Paul EMS Doha, Qatar
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: teachldsseminary-bounces at latter-dayvillage.com
>> > [mailto:teachldsseminary-bounces at latter-dayvillage.com] On Behalf Of
>> > debra storm
>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:26 PM
>> > To: Free Email list for LDS Seminary Teachers
>> > Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] Presidents of the Church
>> >
>> >
>> > I have the document listing their b-days, their favorite hymns, and
>> > their favorite foods along with the recipes of many of them, however, I
>> > cannot send an attachment, and to cut and paste would make a huge
>> > email.
>> > You can contact me personally and I can forward this to you. It is in
>> > Office Word .
>> >
>> > Debra
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/17/07, MariLou Conner wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Another call for help! I used to have a list of the Latter-day
>> > > Prophets' favorite recipes/desserts and favorite hymn, but I can't
>> > > find it. Does anyone know where I can get this? We start Presidents
>> > > of the Church in about 2 weeks. Thanks for everyone's gracious help.
>> >
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