[Teachldsseminary] TEACH: Using Water for Baptism
sjagnana@mac.com
sjagnana at mac.com
Mon Jan 8 11:53:55 MST 2007
I don't think the Lord is concerned with using water to baptize at all.
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DC 61:17 I, the Lord, in the beginning cursed the land
Joseph Fielding Smith
In the beginning the Lord blessed the waters and cursed the land, but
in these last days this was reversed, the land was to be blessed and
the waters to be cursed. A little reflection will bear witness to the
truth of this declaration. In the early millenniums of this earth's
history, men did not understand the composition of the soils, and how
they needed building up when crops were taken from them. The
facilities at the command of the people were primitive and limited,
acreage under cultivation was limited, famines were prevalent and the
luxuries which we have today were not obtainable. Some one may rise
up and say that the soil in those days was just as productive as now,
and this may be the case. It is not a matter of dispute, but the
manner of cultivation did not lend itself to the abundant production
which we are receiving today. It matters not what the causes were, in
those early days of world history, there could not be the production,
nor the varieties of fruits coming from the earth and the Lord can
very properly speak of this as a curse, or the lack of blessing, upon
the land. (Church History and Modern Revelation, 4 vols. [Salt Lake
City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1946-1949], 1:
206 - 207.)
DC 61:19 the destroyer rideth upon the face thereof
Joseph Fielding Smith
These brethren while encamped at McIlwaine's Bend on the Missouri,
beheld the power of the destroyer as he rode upon the storm. One of
that number saw him in all his fearful majesty, and the Lord revealed
to the entire group something of the power of this evil personage. It
may seem strange to us, but it is the fact that Satan exercises
dominion and has some control over the elements . . . Paul speaks of
Satan as the “prince of the power of the air.” (Eph.2:2) The Lord
revealed to these brethren some of the power of the adversary of
mankind and how he rides upon the storm, as a means of affording them
protection. They were commanded to use judgment as they traveled upon
these waters, and the saints coming to Zion were instructed to travel
by land on their way up to Zion. Moreover, notwithstanding the great
power of Satan upon the waters, the Lord still held command and he
could protect his people whether on land or by water as they
journeyed. (Church History and Modern Revelation, 1:207)
DC 61:20 I, the Lord, was angry with you yesterday, but today mine
anger is turned away
B. H. Roberts
During the three days upon the river some disagreements and ill
feeling had developed among the brethren and explanations and
reconciliations had become necessary; it had also been discovered
that progress on their journey by the river in canoes was slow, and
hence it became necessary for those who had been appointed to
purchase the printing press, Sidney Gilbert and William W. Phelps;
and the Prophet, Sidney Rigdon, and Oliver Cowdery, who had been
commanded to hasten their return to Kirtland, found it imperative to
find a more expeditious means of travel than by the canoes. The
greater part of the night at McIlwaine's Bend was devoted to these
matters. The brethren became reconciled to each other, and those
whose affairs more especially cried haste started overland the next
morning for St. Louis, and the rest of the company continued the
journey via the river. (A Comprehensive History of The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 6 vols. [Salt Lake City: Deseret
News Press, 1930], 1: 262 - 263.)
DC 61:22 it mattereth not unto me, after a little…whether they go by
water or by land
“As the language here clearly illustrates, Doctrine and Covenants 61
must not be understood as a strict prohibition against travel by
water. The elders had become vulnerable to Satan’s power over the
waters only because of their murmuring, hard feelings, and lack of
faith. Now that they had repented they were no longer vulnerable and
could travel by water if necessary, as long as their missionary
responsibilities were not neglected.” (Stephen E. Robinson, H. Dean
Garrett, A Commentary on the Doctrine and Covenants, [Salt Lake City:
Deseret Book Co., 2001] 2:180)
DC 61:23 the canal
“The Ohio canal, running north and south about thirty miles west of
Kirtland, connected Lake Erie with Columbus, Ohio, and the Ohio
River.” (Stephen E. Robinson, H. Dean Garrett, A Commentary on the
Doctrine and Covenants, [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 2001] 2:180)
DC 61:27-28 power to command the waters
Power over the elements and the spirit of discernment, or the power
“by the Spirit to know all” Satan’s ways are both available through
the Melchizedek Priesthood, “For God having sworn unto Enoch and unto
his seed with an oath by himself; that every one being ordained after
this order and calling should have power, by faith, to break
mountains, to divide the seas, to dry up waters, to turn them out of
their course.” (JST Gen 15:30) Had it been necessary, Joseph Smith
could have dispensed with the destroyer binding him so that water
travel was completely safe, but instead the Lord’s intent was to
instruct the brethren to be careful of Satan’s traps and that they
“might bear record” (v. 4) of destructions to come.
Bruce R. McConkie
Moses stretched forth his rod and the waters of the Red Sea parted.
Whatever turbulence throbbed through their restless waves ceased at
his word; the laws of gravity ceased to triumph and the very waters
congealed, forming a wall on the right hand and on the left, between
which the chosen seed then trod on dry ground. Enoch moved mountains
and changed rivers from their courses. Elijah and Elisha smote the
waters of Jordan with a holy mantle, and they divided hither and
thither, leaving dry ground for their path. Unto the servants of the
Lord “is given power to command the waters.” ("D&C61:27D&C 61:27.)
(The Mortal Messiah: From Bethlehem to Calvary, 4 vols. [Salt Lake
City: Deseret Book Co., 1979-1981], 2: 277.)
On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:31 AM, terisa wrote:
A student from the Jr/Sr Seminary class asked her teacher this
morning the question of why if Satan has power over the water, water
is used for baptism? If someone has an answer I will forward to the
teacher.
Thanks...
Terisa in Wyoming
EMS
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