[Teachldsseminary] Using picture off internet

[Linda Harper]

I asked my CES brother that since I was making a POWERPoint and he said if 
we are using it for educational purposes it was okay.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathleen West" <kwest at chorus.net>
To: <farfallabaci at hotmail.com>; "Free Email list for LDS Seminary Teachers" 
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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] Using picture off internet


I have a follow up question on your message. Is it permissible to use a
picture in a presentation (say a powerpoint) that we downloaded from the
Ensign pdf format posted on the internet? Is it the same as holding up the
actual Ensign or no?

Kathleen West
Madison, Wisconsin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Price" <farfallabaci at hotmail.com>
To: <teachldsseminary at latter-dayvillage.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Teachldsseminary] Using picture off internet


> Yes -- using the picture is a **big** boo boo. The artwork is
> copyrighted by its creator and may not be printed or saved in any format
> on
> your computer without written permission of that artist.
> The fact that art appears in the Ensign is **not** a release of
> copyright to the whole world. The church pays the artist for the right to
> use it, and so should we. The absence of a copyright statement also does
> not
> release it for general use.
> <<<Rant coming.>>>
> This is important for several reasons:
> 1. The artist has a right to control how, where, when his/her art is used.
> 2. The artist has a right to generate personal income from his/her work.
> 3. We believe in honoring, obeying and sustaining the law. Using artwork
> without permission is theft.
> 4. The Holy Ghost does not support unethical use of artwork, making our
> "special" picture/drawing/clipart use in vain. We may think the spirit is
> there, but we're being deceived. There is a law irrevocably decreed in
> heaven regarding the holy spirit and theft.
> 5. Students learn by our "cheating" the system that it is okay to use
> material without permission or acknowledgement. -- This is where I come
> in.
> As a college teacher who has to constantly deal with students
> committing plagiarism (both textual and visual), it is heartbreaking to
> tell
> a student they fail a class because they did what their friends,
> parents --
> and in this case, seminary teacher -- does. You can't just copy stuff off
> the Internet and claim it's okay.
> The church has clear declarations in several places prohibiting the
> illegal use of artwork. Bottom line: Don't do it!
> <<<End of ranting. Sorry if I offended anybody.>>>
> Note: I did not check out the specific case mentioned in the email
> below. My comments above are intended to speak generally, not
> specifically.
>
> David Price
> Mt. Pleasant IA
> -- no longer teaching EMS, but loving the list anyway.
>
>>I went to the August 1992 Ensign that Michele pointed out, and read the
>>description of the illustration at the bottom.  The artist is Robert T.
>>Barrett, and so I did a Google on him and he has a website in which all of
>>his artwork is displayed.  The picture you are talking about is there.
>>I'm
>>guessing because it was in the Ensign that it would be okay to use?
>>Unless
>
>>of course there is a statement that expresses specifically that image
>>cannot be used.  I don't know.  Would that text be included in the online
>>version of that Ensign?  I'm thinking it would, so that it must be "safe"
>>to copy under the guidelines in the front of the Ensign.  I hope I'm not
>>making a boo boo here...
>
>
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