[Teachldsseminary] Electronic scriptures

Thu Oct 5 06:50:27 MDT 2006

Brien,
This is a crazy E-mail, but my husband's name is Brian Hamrick, and we are from the Kansas City area. His Dad is a convert, and we are originally from Idaho..Maybe we are distant cousins!  In Idaho, Hamrick is not a very common name....

I am an early morning seminary teacher in Overland Park, KS....

There are more Hamricks out there. Nice to know that more are in the church
Annie

Brien <ttloflib at san.rr.com> wrote: With all the .02 cents you should be getting enough for a phone call out of
this one by now :-) 

I'm now a bishop and I use my palm as well especially when I go to stake
training meetings and such but always bring my printed scriptures to all
other ward and stake conference and priesthood. I have downloaded both the
markable version and the footnote type too so I can hyperlink by subject or
see the JST etc...

However, each student is expected to have their own printed versions of the
scriptures, marked and used per CES policy. Because the use of electronic
scriptures on a mission is by Mission President discretion it is advisable,
prudent, and correct to use and become familiar with printed scriptures as
opposed electronic versions. 

Encourage reading of any type electronic or print but be firm in the
expectation that they mark and insert items into their printed versions.

Brien Hamrick

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:teachldsseminary-bounces at latter-dayvillage.com] On Behalf Of Kim
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:27 AM
To: 'Free Email list for LDS Seminary Teachers'
Subject: [Teachldsseminary] Electronic scriptures

Has anyone had a student who uses a PalmPilot version of the scriptures in
class?  I have a student whose mother is letting him borrow her Palm for
seminary since he will be able to find things faster.  I have the scriptures
on my Palm, but I have found that I don't use them all that much because I
miss my real scriptures and all my notes, etc.  I would rather see this boy
use the scriptures that have been provided for him by the ward and get his
hands on them, but I want to make sure that I am not putting my feelings on
to him where I should not.  What are your thoughts?  
~Kim
EMS - Savannah, GA

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:teachldsseminary-bounces at latter-dayvillage.com] On Behalf Of Shelley
Hammond Hoffmire
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:34 PM
To: teachldsseminary at latter-dayvillage.com
Subject: [Teachldsseminary] Unruly Students

I have a lesson that I have taught over the years to youth and young women
classes whenever I have had students that are disrupting the class to the
point of spoiling the class for the others.  It has always worked for me.  I
am a rookie seminary teacher but a seasoned YW's leader and youth teacher.
I first gave this lesson several years ago to a very dysfunctional young
women's group.  It helped bring about miracles. 

1.  Get a large wooden spoon and tape or glue gun it to a 2 to 3 foot dowel.
Essentially create a long 3' to 4' spoon.  (when I first did this lesson I
made one spoon for everyone in the class).

2.  Have the kids either sit a one table or around a picnic cloth on the
floor.  Bring in a sack full of yummy food -- candy bars, cookies, whatever
your kids would love to eat. Dump the food in the middle of the table but
tell the kids they can't eat any.  Not yet.

3.  Tell them in your own words the following story:  

Rabbi Haim of Romshishok was an itinerant preacher. He traveled from town to
town delivering religious sermons that stressed the importance of respect
for one's fellow man. He often began his talks with the following story:
 "I once ascended to the firmaments. I first went to see Hell and the sight
was horrifying. Row after row of tables were laden with platters of
sumptuous food, yet the people seated around the tables were pale and
emaciated, moaning in hunger. As I came closer, I understood their
predicament. 
"Every person held a full spoon, but both arms were splinted with wooden
slats so he could not bend either elbow to bring the food to his mouth. It
broke my heart to hear the tortured groans of these poor people as they held
their food so near but could not consume it.
"Next I went to visit Heaven. I was surprised to see the same setting I had
witnessed in Hell - row after row of long tables laden with food. But in
contrast to Hell, the people here in Heaven were sitting contentedly talking
with each other, obviously sated from their sumptuous meal.
"As I came closer, I was amazed to discover that here, too, each person had
his arms splinted on wooden slats that prevented him from bending his
elbows. How, then, did they manage to eat?
"As I watched, a man picked up his spoon and dug it into the dish before
him. Then he stretched across the table and fed the person across from him!
The recipient of this kindness thanked him and returned the favor by leaning
across the table to feed his benefactor.
I suddenly understood. Heaven and Hell offer the same circumstances and
conditions. The critical difference is in the way the people treat each
other."

I then tell my kids they have a choice -- they can be selfish, self serving
and starve themselves, or they can feast, enjoy the bounty before them, and
feed one another.  The choice is theirs. 

Thereafter, whenever someone really acts up in class, I just quietly hand
them the long spoon, and at first say, "what it is going to be today -- are
you going to starve and let the rest of the class starve, or are you going
to join in the feast and serve your friends."  After a time or two, I don't
need to say anything, I just bring out the spoon and everyone knows what it
means.  It has always worked beautifully, not only in  helping with behavior
in class but also in building a bond and a bit of Zion in and out of the
classroom.

The first time I did this, I didn't tell the kids the story right away.
Instead  I gave them each a spoon, told them to pretend to have it tied to
their hand, and told them to pretend their other hand was tied behind the
back.  I told them the only way they could get at the delicious food was to
use the spoon.  I then said, "Help yourselves -- enjoy the feast."  It took
about two minutes of struggling unsuccessfully to get any food to their
mouths before one young woman said,. "Let me help you -- I'll get a candy
for you if you get one for me. "  Then everyone caught on started trying to
feed each other.  That is when I  told them the story.  I also told them I
was so pleased that they had discovered the secret themselves and that they
knew everything they needed to know to make this group a piece of heaven on
earth.  Since then, I haven't made such a production out of it.  I just make
one spoon and tell the story.  The first time had the greatest impact --
those girls
 straightened up right away and truly became a unified and considerate group
of YW.  But with each class, this story has had an impact.  So I keep making
the long spoons and telling this story.  I just gave this lesson last week
in attempts to help one of my students out of a class of 11 to stop
high-jacking the class with his comments and snide remarks.  The class went
over well, the kids got the message and my disruptive student has been great
since then.  I now keep the long spoon nearby and haven't had to use it yet,
a week later.

Sorry this is a bit long-winded.  I hope it helps.  I'm glad to finally have
something to contribute.  I have gleaned so much from this list.  I am ever
grateful for all the terrific ideas that come my way from this group of
dedicated teachers.  It has made my rookie year as Seminary teacher so much
more fun.

Loving Seminary in Wisconsin!

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