[Teachldsseminary] TEACH:: The Story "The Room"

sjagnana@mac.com sjagnana at mac.com
Sun Dec 10 19:42:04 MST 2006


I agree with you to a point, in that he does not view us in that way,  
but if an individual fails to utilize the atonement it is as if it  
never happened for that person.  (even though we know an individual  
could never atone for themselves as a perfect sacrifice as did the  
savior, but the physical suffering and repentance process has been  
ignored by them) I think for the sake of this storyteller's sweet  
intentions, it is to bring people to repentance and to realize the  
sadness that the Savior will feel potentially for those who would  
someday suffer for themselves if they procrastinate.  But truly he is  
joyful when we repent and take full advantage for His sufferings and  
great love for each of us individually.  There is no doubt that the  
man in this story knows who the Savior is and that he is accountable  
to him for these actions written upon these cards.  How do you think  
our Father in Heaven felt when a third of His spirit children  
rebelled and would not follow His plan for their happiness?

I hear you completely when you speak of us as being children of the  
covenant... but that may still require one suffering for their own  
sins, and I believe that will break a heart or two.  D&C 19:15-17   
Isn't the plan amazing in how it embraces and encompasses all of His  
children with love that is hard for us to comprehend the magnitude  
of.  I can truly understand your concern here with a person getting  
the wrong understanding of the atonement and how it works for an  
individual.  It is so very personal and any misunderstanding of this  
needs to be corrected and clarified always.  Thank you for your great  
insights.
Kathryn


On Dec 10, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Marji wrote:

I actually think the story teaches false doctrine.  For this reason:   
I do
not believe Christ views us as a collection of all our faults and  
failings
along the path of life.  I believe, oh so much better than we can,  
that he
sees us as a collection of our potentials and possibilities.

I believe, at least for the faithful, that there is no scenario such  
as this
"But then as I pushed away the tears, I saw Him. No, please not Him. Not
here. Oh, anyone but Jesus.  I watched helplessly as He began to open  
the
files and read the cards. I couldn't bear to watch His response. And  
in the
moments I could bring myself to look at His face, I saw a sorrow  
deeper than
my own. He seemed to intuitively go to the worst boxes."

We don't bring sorrow to the Lord.  We bring him joy, the joy of the
redeemed and the faithful.  Even now, in our present, still to be fully
sanctified state, we are his children, the children of the covenant.

I could go on but I won't belabor the point on list.  The majesty of the
simple phrase "I am a child of God" is not truly understood,  
probably, by
any of us.

As someone said (Maxwell, I think), "We are spiritual beings having a  
mortal
experience, not mortal beings having a spiritual experience".

Marji


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